View Full Version : Stabbing at Coral Gables High School
http://www.justnews.com/news/20921735/detail.html
Whats wrong with your people down there Lino?
Whats wrong with your people down there Lino?
its not the heat.. its the humidity :bolt:
anthony20031
09-15-2009, 03:15 PM
Umm also the victim was 17 and only in the 10th grade? Seems a little old to be in the 10th grade. Shit when I was 17 I was almost graduating high school which is 12th grade. Think I turned 18 right before I graduated
doug5336
09-15-2009, 03:18 PM
Let's see what the reason/excuse for this one is. Golly, I can hardly wait.
anthony20031
09-15-2009, 03:22 PM
it's supposedly a good school?
Let's see what the reason/excuse for this one is. Golly, I can hardly wait.
LMAO!! He was such a good kid though.
doug5336
09-15-2009, 05:12 PM
I knew it! It didn't take long! There was a parent on the news, blaming.....the cops! Probably the suspect's mother.
Hopefully it wasn't with one of the knives I lost......:eek:
How the hell did the police get blamed here? They weren't even there at the time of the stabbing. Oh wait, because they weren't there at the time of the stabbing to stop the fight?
doug5336
09-15-2009, 05:40 PM
Hopefully it wasn't with one of the knives I lost......:eek:
How the hell did the police get blamed here? They weren't even there at the time of the stabbing. Oh wait, because they weren't there at the time of the stabbing to stop the fight?
Come on! Somebody else is always at fault. "Personal responsibility" doesn't exist in today's world. LOL!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait for all of the defense experts and the shrinks to be on the news to give their take on this tragedy.
Just another animal with no discipline raised with no supervision reverting to animal behavior. Not only is the kid to blame but his parents are to blame. He is still young enough to have parental influence or lack there of mold his decision making process but certainly old enough to know right from wrong. Every case like this should result in death penalty or prison for the kid and the parents. This disgusts me. We are raising a nation of criminals.
JaxChris
09-15-2009, 10:18 PM
He is still young enough to have parental influence or lack there of mold his decision making process but certainly old enough to know right from wrong.
This is what I like to call "parents didn't beat him when he needed it". Fucking softies are too afraid to discipline their kids like we have for past 5000 years. If the kid acts out and doesn't heed the first warning, a smack is in order.
RCSRT8
09-16-2009, 01:35 AM
A smack, he needed an ass whooping straight out
Satan_3pc
09-16-2009, 02:57 AM
Kids threaten to call the cop or child services nowadays. So what you do is, you tell them, "Well I still have 20 minutes before the cops get here to beat you within inches of your life. Enjoy your crippled foster life."
JaxChris
09-16-2009, 05:35 AM
If your kid doesn't cower just by giving them "the look", you haven't beat them enough.
If your kid doesn't cower just by giving them "the look", you haven't beat them enough.
Never beaten my kid and believe me the look works.
I completely believe in beating your kids ass for sure. My parents beat the shit out of my ass and I turned out somewhat OK. :raspberry:
The only people to blame is this piece of shit kid and the parents who obviously didn't give a fuck enough until their "good kid" got in trouble. Fuck em all, throw all their ass's in jail.
Kids threaten to call the cop or child services nowadays. So what you do is, you tell them, "Well I still have 20 minutes before the cops get here to beat you within inches of your life. Enjoy your crippled foster life."
I tell them to forget the cops and call an ambulance...
I have laid a smack down on each kid.. only takes one time and then the LOOK has way more power behind it.
My two kids are very well mannered.
JaxChris
09-16-2009, 10:46 AM
My woman's two girls were not used to discipline, and still don't receive it from their father. When we first pick them up from him I give them a quick reminder in the car ("girls, what does this face mean?") and after that I can put them in check in 2 secs flat with just a glance. I love it. =)
And I don't want them all in jail Cris, you know as well as I do this country is becoming mostly shitbags... you can't have 20% work to pay for the other 80%. That would make me go postal on one of the fine Federal Correctional Institutions we have stockpiled here in Florida. They'd ask me why I did it and I'd say "to lower my bills & taxes".
Satan_3pc
09-16-2009, 07:48 PM
Never beaten my kid and believe me the look works.Girl also seems like she's smart and not going to grow up to be an idiot too. So you got lucky. I mean most of it is parenting, but some is just the kid in general. If you're kid is born dumb... he's just not going to "get it" as quickly. :suicide1:
doug5336
09-16-2009, 07:52 PM
Does anyone recall the case of Michael Hernandez? At 14, he brutally murdered his classmate, Jaime Gough, also 14, by stabbing him multiple times and slashing his throat, during school, as well. This happened in Miami back in 2004. I remember his parents hiring every shrink, every child psychology expert, etc. They tried to say he was insane, blah, blah blah. He was tried as an adult, and was convicted. He received a life sentence, although it took four years from crime to trial/conviction.
Let's see how this one turns out.
Satan_3pc
09-16-2009, 07:58 PM
Insane? No, he's just from Miami, and he grew up with Cuban mentality.
Cuban mentality.
explain...
Satan_3pc
09-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Ever heard of a Cuban neck tie? The name was invented for a reason.
Thought it was a Colombian neck tie, used mainly by big cartel drug dealers.
explain...
Just watch Scarface. :raspberry:
JaxChris
09-17-2009, 08:34 AM
Just watch Scarface. :raspberry:
LOL, did Cris just stand up for Matt? hahaha
LOL, did Cris just stand up for Matt? hahaha
Oh shit, let me take that back.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:25 AM
THis situation is freaking rediculous!
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:26 AM
Just another animal with no discipline raised with no supervision reverting to animal behavior. Not only is the kid to blame but his parents are to blame. He is still young enough to have parental influence or lack there of mold his decision making process but certainly old enough to know right from wrong. Every case like this should result in death penalty or prison for the kid and the parents. This disgusts me. We are raising a nation of criminals.
:+1:
I'm not even going to go into my own rant about this BS. I've buried a friend already to these young idiots so my thought process is just a little faulty at the moment.
Yeah, but Scarface showed the Cubans as killers but the Colombians were the crazy dudes.
BTW, IMHO, there is a difference between a fight/murder over passion for a girl vs. the methodical execution of Jaime Goth by Michael Hernandez. That kid Hernandez is certainly serial killer material and someone you can never trust to ever roam the streets.
doug5336
09-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Yeah, but Scarface showed the Cubans as killers but the Colombians were the crazy dudes.
BTW, IMHO, there is a difference between a fight/murder over passion for a girl vs. the methodical execution of Jaime Goth by Michael Hernandez. That kid Hernandez is certainly serial killer material and someone you can never trust to ever roam the streets.
So it is justified to kill someone over pussy? I can't wait to see him use that as a defense!!!!! Stop the world and let me off!!!!!!!
JaxChris
09-17-2009, 09:39 AM
Those kids down there haven't surprised me since before the Menendez Brothers.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:41 AM
Miami is just a shithole! Not much if any good comes out of that place. The population is a mixed conglomorate of races as well as scumbags. Lino, I don't see how the hell you do it! I can't stand working there and as far as living goes I wouldn' think of it.
There is no difference, they are still fucking garbage that doesn't deserve to live.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:44 AM
There is no difference, they are still fucking garbage that doesn't deserve to live.
BAsically! The kind of scumbag you are doesn't excuse the fact that you are a scumbag! They're all the same.
doug5336
09-17-2009, 09:46 AM
The end result is a homicide? Correct? Just wanted to make sure.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:47 AM
The end result is a homicide? Correct? Just wanted to make sure.
Correct!
I beg to differ. Yes, murder is murder and the kid has to pay the price, but it is natural/animal instinct to fight over "pussy" and the kid's escalation of a fight by bringing a lethal weapon absolutely crossed the line and was a very poor decision that he has to pay for for the rest of his life. However, to kill someone for the pleasure of killing someone is sociopathic. That's why this kid is only being charged with 2nd degree murder and not premeditated 1st degree.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 09:58 AM
The boundaries you're drawing are correct, but by defining what it means to commit premeditated murder in any regards would be what he did. He had ample time to conceive a plan prior to initiating the actual act.
The reasoning should not be defined in a case like this to me. Of course it's all a matter opinions at this point, but by legal definition the kid should have to pay for a premeditated charge.
The kid is an animal no matter how you slice it. I am sure he was born an innocent child like everyone else but through lack of parenting and bad social role models he turned into a murdering animal. Ridding the planet of people like that is the only thing to do.
anthony20031
09-17-2009, 10:00 AM
they may be able to say that by bringing that weapon to school he had premeditated the attack or something along those lines
they may be able to say that by bringing that weapon to school he had premeditated the attack or something along those lines
:+1:
Satan_3pc
09-17-2009, 11:27 AM
Thought it was a Colombian neck tie, used mainly by big cartel drug dealers.No no you're thinking of the Colombian sub. You know... the one with the roasted pork, pickles, and mustard?
I carry a weapon and if I ever had to use it, I hope the powers at be wouldn't try the same argument. Never bring a fist to a knife fight and never bring a knife to a gun fight. I think this kid is a stupid dumbass, and the things I'm hearing about his home environment supports the lack of guidance. But personally, I've seen attacks with screwdrivers and rocks that never ended in death but easily could have. I wonder how many fist fights escalated to a blade being drawn.
No number of fights. These pussies today don't know how to take an ass whooping. They're all scared, which is why they turned to weapons. And they keep fighting over dumber and dumber reasons. You wanna fight over pussy, go ahead duke it out and move on. No, that is too much for these fucking hippy raised bitch's. These fucking hippies keep crippling society more and more. It's because of their actions and laws, that violent crimes keep getting worse and worse.
I hear you and I think we are absolutely on the same page.
Secpro
09-17-2009, 12:00 PM
Cris is 100% correct!:tiphat:
They cant' take a ass whoopn you hit'em to hard and they automatically want to reach for there gun.
We need an overhaul! What ever happened to the days when your parents could kick your ass when you screwed up and you'll straighten up? What happen to the days when you can square off with somebody and actually fight and not have to run for cover?
anthony20031
09-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Yh Cris hit it on the head.
And Phil the argument could be made that you didn't commit premeditate becuase you are legally carrying a firearm/weapon and have it in the case you need to defend your life. This kid was illegally carrying a weapon and in no time (I am assuming here as was on school grounds and from what I know the other kid did not have a weapon) was he in fear for his life. Hence it could be deemed that he brought the weapon with the intent to use it. When you leave your home you are legally carrying and don't have the intent to use (unless you obviously are forced to)
You are also licensed to carry here. There is also and age requirement to carry here obviously because of maturity issues. This kid was not licensed. We all know it is illegal to have a weapon on school grounds and not even in school zones. What part of no didn't he understand?
In no way shape or form is this kid innocent of anything. He deserves the worst punishment.
I have fought over pussy before, just like any other guy on here. You know what, in the long run it never seemed worth it. There is more pussy out there.
What part of no didn't he understand?
because his parents never taught him what NO means...
doug5336
09-17-2009, 04:07 PM
This tragic incident must have spawned an epidemic!!
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-student-brings-knife-bn091709,0,3190716.story
I certainly hope for this scumbag's sake that his lawyer does not plan on using a defense of "it's a natural instinct to kill over pussy." To steal a line from Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men", :
" Please tell me that you have something more, Lieutenant. These two Marines are on trial for their lives. Please tell me their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes to a phone bill." (Or in this case, pussy). LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great place to live, can't wait to get out of this state. These schools need to be searched just like they have for many years in other schools.
doug5336
09-17-2009, 04:12 PM
Cris,
As the B-52's once sang, "Get out of that state! Get out of that state, you're in!!!"
What a great place to live, can't wait to get out of this state. These schools need to be searched just like they have for many years in other schools.
its just as bad everywhere else...
anthony20031
09-17-2009, 05:46 PM
Not in Vermont :bolt:
JaxChris
09-17-2009, 08:00 PM
Florida isn't that bad for legit citizens defending themselves. South Florida is really the worst for crime too. And Florida is at least making things a little better for us, glad it's not becoming more restrictive.
But if I did leave this state, I would definitely prefer a place like Missouri, Vermont, or another free state that allows open carry but requires a permit for concealed carry - I do believe that system is best for defense and crime deterring. This way you can have a permit, use an OWB holster and whether it shows or not you don't care because it is being carried in a fashion that is obviously not criminal in nature.
anthony20031
09-17-2009, 08:27 PM
another reason I really don't wanna raise a kid here
Duskydriver
09-17-2009, 09:31 PM
No, that is too much for these fucking hippy raised bitch's. These fucking hippies keep crippling society more and more. It's because of their actions and laws, that violent crimes keep getting worse and worse.
Parents today are too busy...
A: Being their kids friend instead of their parent.
B: Making sure that there is a Yukon in the garage sitting next to the Eoropean import. Making sure that little Johnny has all the latest and coolest things..PS 3, Ipod, the latest phones, etc, etc.
My 15 yr old nephew (not really..best friends kid) is so busy smokin weed and drinkin that school is secondary. His mom is the one giving the shit to him. My buddy sits there and does nothing. What they don't realize is that instead of being parents, they are crippling him for the rest of his life. I assure you this boy will be in and out of jail, work many many jobs, and is basically screwed. I have tried many times to talk to them and tell them they are just fucking this poor kid over, and I keep getting the same excuse. "It's better that he does it here, than in the streets. He's gonna do it anyway, so why not at home!"
Kids aren't afraid of trouble, because they know their parents can't do shit. Kids don't respect adults like we did when we all were younger. Sure, you may have thought your english teacher was a doofus, but you never...ever said it to his face.
Secpro
09-18-2009, 08:54 AM
Parents today are too busy...
A: Being their kids friend instead of their parent.
B: Making sure that there is a Yukon in the garage sitting next to the Eoropean import. Making sure that little Johnny has all the latest and coolest things..PS 3, Ipod, the latest phones, etc, etc.
My 15 yr old nephew (not really..best friends kid) is so busy smokin weed and drinkin that school is secondary. His mom is the one giving the shit to him. My buddy sits there and does nothing. What they don't realize is that instead of being parents, they are crippling him for the rest of his life. I assure you this boy will be in and out of jail, work many many jobs, and is basically screwed. I have tried many times to talk to them and tell them they are just fucking this poor kid over, and I keep getting the same excuse. "It's better that he does it here, than in the streets. He's gonna do it anyway, so why not at home!"
Kids aren't afraid of trouble, because they know their parents can't do shit. Kids don't respect adults like we did when we all were younger. Sure, you may have thought your english teacher was a doofus, but you never...ever said it to his face.
:+1:
Secpro
09-18-2009, 08:54 AM
another reason I really don't wanna raise a kid here
Me too!:+1::+1::+1::+1::+1::+1::+1:
Secpro
09-18-2009, 08:55 AM
its just as bad everywhere else...
Just about! The only places that are half way decent are the open carrry states.
I have to disagree, there any many places much better than this. The key is not to live in shithole city area like this. Country is the ticket.
Secpro
09-18-2009, 09:24 AM
I have to disagree, there any many places much better than this. The key is not to live in shithole city area like this. Country is the ticket.
You're right! i lived in Ocala, for about a year or so and it was great! Nothing but country. Now it's a little screwed up with race and the same city crime, but the point is in the country alot of the intolerance you will find in the city is obsolete in a country setting.
Having lived in Albany, NY less then a year ago I can say for a fact that there was much less crime there then here. Dont get me wrong, there were a few bad areas but here its everywhere. I have never seen such bad crime and I use to spend a lot of time in NYC growing up. This area, Broward and Dade, is a total shit hole. The best I can do while here is more in to Palm Beach county, where it seems slightly better. Bottom line, this area is the worst for crime. Conversely, it is the best for 2nd amendment rights. Where NY was much better with crime but TERRIBLE for 2nd amendment rights. Is there anywhere where I can carry a gun and not be in fear of my life all the time?
anthony20031
09-18-2009, 10:34 AM
Vermont lol.....The new crime statistics came out and guess what the worst region for crime was....yup the Southeast. You know what region was the best (ie the lowest) with crime...the Northeast. I would love to move to Vermont or Maine.
Vermont there is no permitting either.
anthony20031
09-18-2009, 10:41 AM
Nope just for concealed I believe, but you can open carry without a permit
Secpro
09-18-2009, 10:58 AM
Vermont there is no permitting either.
That would be correct!
That would be correct!
Of course it is.
Secpro
09-18-2009, 11:16 AM
Having lived in Albany, NY less then a year ago I can say for a fact that there was much less crime there then here. Dont get me wrong, there were a few bad areas but here its everywhere. I have never seen such bad crime and I use to spend a lot of time in NYC growing up. This area, Broward and Dade, is a total shit hole. The best I can do while here is more in to Palm Beach county, where it seems slightly better. Bottom line, this area is the worst for crime. Conversely, it is the best for 2nd amendment rights. Where NY was much better with crime but TERRIBLE for 2nd amendment rights. Is there anywhere where I can carry a gun and not be in fear of my life all the time?
Palm Beach isn't all that great either sir! The crime rate in Palm Beach may or may not be high but I can tell you from personal experience that they have an increasing amount of Haitian gang activity. It is on the rise! I watched a serveillance video from one local LEO agency that had Palm Beach Sheriff's Officers squaring off with some of these fools in downtown PB and whooping ass, but it seemed like they had infinite numbers and wouldn't stay down.
UPDATE
http://www.justnews.com/news/21218777/detail.html
UPDATE
http://www.justnews.com/news/21218777/detail.html
Good but I wish they would make it 1st degree so he could be a candidate for the death penalty.
Secpro
10-09-2009, 08:38 AM
Good but I wish they would make it 1st degree so he could be a candidate for the death penalty.
Even if he's a candidate the likelyhood of them using it are slim to none. People die in fucking jail on the death penalty they don't executed like they're supposed to.
doug5336
10-09-2009, 09:56 AM
Did they let this kid go? I thought since he killed over some pussy, it wasn't a big deal? What the status on his case?
Secpro
10-09-2009, 09:59 AM
Did they let this kid go? I thought since he killed over some pussy, it wasn't a big deal? What the status on his case?
The updated article is what Lino posted. He's going to be charged as an adult for 2nd Degree Murder.
doug5336
10-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Oh yeah. I saw a news story yesterday, where all of his "supporters" were threatening to riot when they heard he was being charged as an adult. Wow, an accused murderer with a fan club. Imagine that.
Secpro
10-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Oh yeah. I saw a news story yesterday, where all of his "supporters" were threatening to riot when they heard he was being charged as an adult. Wow, an accused murderer with a fan club. Imagine that.
Ain't it some bullshit! A set of gangbanging dumb asses all dressed in white teas. Fucking rejects!
Wow, an accused murderer with a fan club. Imagine that.
two words for you: O J
two words for you: O J
but he was innocent :shootleft:
doug5336
10-09-2009, 10:15 AM
but he was innocent :shootleft:
Yeah, and so was Robert Blake.
but he was innocent :shootleft:
Yeah, and so was Robert Blake.
so was the King of Pop
doug5336
10-09-2009, 10:20 AM
so was the King of Pop
How's he doing?
How's he doing?
Justice was served....
JaxChris
10-09-2009, 05:49 PM
Yeah, and so was Robert Blake.
And Ted Kennedy... ROFLMAO!
doug5336
08-04-2011, 10:06 AM
Wow, they convicted him. I thought they would let him off because it was a fight over pussy. Amazing.
Its about time they start cracking down on these pieces of shit.