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JaxChris
03-06-2010, 12:34 AM
So last Friday night I was doing my minimum monthly clean (whether used or not in that month it happens around the last/first day of every month).

I dropped my mag, cleared the chamber, locked the slide back, activated the takedown lever, pulled back the slide and rode it forward. Next thing I pulled the trigger and as I pushed the slide forward to remove it I heard pop or snap sound.

I didn't pay much attention to it at that moment and went about my cleaning. After I finished cleaning I put the weapon back together and the slide is giving me trouble going back all the way. I finally get it to go back and get it together. Then I move to function check and find the weapon won't cock. Fuck.

The striker indicator won't poke out when racking the slide and it won't dry fire. The weapon is dead. Springfield is a 9-5 M-F kind of place, so I'll have to call Monday.

Monday comes around and I call Springfield. I get someone within 15 secs of getting past the menu prompts on the phone system. I explain the issue and they say to send it in and they'll take care of it. Within 2 minutes they had a prepaid Fedex overnight label in my email. Then they tell me to put a letter in the box explaining the issue, note my serial number, my name, address, and phone number. I'm working and won't be able to get away before the depot closes (must bring it to a UPS/Fedex depot for individuals to send firearms and/or ammo). I'll drop it off tomorrow on the way into work.

Tuesday I drop it off at Fedex on my lunch break around 5pm (yea, got to lunch late). Wednesday I check the tracking and see that has arrived. Thursday the woman wakes me at 10am (I'm off Thu/Fri/Sat's) with a package that just arrived. It's my XD45 Compact, spotlessly cleaned, repaired, and returned overnight... at a cost of $0.00!

I opened it up and found the repair report showed that the sear pin had broken and they also replaced the striker safety lever as well.

So they were fast & friendly on the phone, paid for overnight shipping both ways, didn't charge for parts or labor, they had it in their office for less than 6 hours according to the tracking numbers, and my property was gone for only 2 days. Fucking-a... you never get handed that service up front from a company across the country you talk to on the phone, especially without a fuss.

Makes me wonder just how much Springfield actually pays those Croatians for each XD if they are able to dish out that kind of expensive on servicing them. Their must be a lot of margin to play with.

Either way I'm happy. From now, I will start pulling apart the frame to knock the sweat off the sear assembly every 3 months and keep it nearly dry like everything else.

After 1 year, almost 2000 rounds down the pipe, and carrying nearly everyday in hot & humid Florida with only field stripped cleanings I will chalk this up to my fault and not a defect in SA's products.

I will still keep my XD45 Compact as my carry gun from now on, regardless what else I get down the road.

overkill84
03-06-2010, 12:51 AM
Sounds good man.I wonder if glock would be so helpful if i needed them to be.Its sad,ive had my G23 going on 2 years now and only have 100 rds through it.

Chris
03-06-2010, 01:35 AM
SA customer service has been stellar in MHO.
Though I havent used them much....thank god. I have been involved with them on several occasions on behalf of others.

They stand behind the product ........period.

I like many many manufacturers and own a couple of guns....just a couple.....but i have rarely had experiances that rivaled the service you get from SA. One company I have had similiar interactions with is Leupold. Though I was never a fan of their products before the interaction after the service I was sold..... I had in an unfortunate issue with a malfunctioning part and was given the upmost respect and I will be a customer hence forth.

As a former training professional and serious hobbyist who spends over 10,000 a year on gun related products there are a few companies who will have my business for the duration....SA is one of them.

Glad to hear of the good experiance!

Cris
03-06-2010, 09:43 AM
Their customer service rocks, I haven't seen much better than them. I also hear Sig's customer service is outstanding also, but you can't say much about their sales end.

Secpro
03-06-2010, 10:00 AM
Sounds good man.I wonder if glock would be so helpful if i needed them to be.Its sad,ive had my G23 going on 2 years now and only have 100 rds through it.

Good luck trying to get that out of Glock there sweet cheeks!

I'm happy to hear of a a great experience with XD! Just makes me feel even better about owning one of there guns.

Chris
03-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Glocks customer service is very very good as well

Secpro
03-06-2010, 11:17 AM
Glocks customer service is very very good as well

Ah, you weren't supposed to say that! I was trying to make him feel bad for not liking my XD40sc

overkill84
03-06-2010, 04:41 PM
Ah, you weren't supposed to say that! I was trying to make him feel bad for not liking my XD40sc

:secpro::raspberry:Hold on guys i think my GLOCK is in the way.

IraG2362
03-06-2010, 04:52 PM
i owned 7-8 glocks and NEVER have had any breakdown of any sought... but i will say I am glad to hear you had such a positive experiance getting your weapon fixed and able to protect you..

ss1
03-07-2010, 11:22 PM
We have had to send some Glocks in for typical LE abuse. One was a kaboom that somehow never could be remedied after pretty much every part being replaced. Glock eventually gave the deputy a brand new gun. I will have to say, both companies stand behind their gun 100% even out of warranty. In addition to the others, the following have great customer service from my experience:

Trijicon - Had dry rot on a seal for my ACOG and they replaced the entire reticle assemby. It was just like new. They also replaced and installed the night sights I purchased for my Beretta PX4 after I noticed that two gas tubes were cracked.

Ruger - They serviced a rifle that was over 20 years old for free

DPMS - I was missing some rail covers on my mini-SASS and they overnighted the parts on my word.

TROS - Custom barrel that was sent out to me before I sent the payment.


Thru the shop, I've heard Colt and S&W was good and so was Keltec. S&W actually repaired a Walther that was an Interarms for free. Sig sent us parts for an old P220 that was imported by Browning and had a different extractor than what is used today for free. Taurus actually sucked for the length of time it takes for repairs, etc in my experience.

Secpro
03-08-2010, 07:51 AM
Damn, so we're all pretty much good to go since we own pretty much all guns listed except for Taurus. Only the gay Cuban loves those!:raspberry:

Satan_3pc
03-08-2010, 08:10 AM
It's so he can look like he has a lot of :lino: but really he's just buying cheap guns, and you know what they say.... "You get what you pay for" and "Quality is better than Quantity"

lino
03-08-2010, 09:59 AM
Damn, so we're all pretty much good to go since we own pretty much all guns listed except for Taurus. Only the gay Cuban loves those!:raspberry:

lol... dont hate

M@D-M@X
03-08-2010, 10:38 AM
It sounds like Springfield has their CS down packed but my concern would be more on why the sear pin broke and the striker safety lever got replaced.

I don't know about the rest of you and not to throw dirt on Springfield, since I'm a proud owner of one of their Greek made SAR-8 but I consider that as a major failure and you should feel lucky that it happened as you were cleaning it.

I might be confused so correct me if I'm wrong. From what I understand, you're stating that this problem happened due to the fact that you've only field stripped the weapon for cleaning.
Was the sear pin rusted? Has S.A. given you an explanation on why it happened or have you researched on any issues alike?

ss1
03-08-2010, 11:09 AM
I recently had to repair a llama .380 that was based on the 1911 design. The pin that held the sear/disconnector had shattered into 4 pieces. This is a steel pin less than 1" long. I also noticed that the manual thumb safety wasn't working correctly and saw that the hole had elongated so that the trigger bar was able to push the safety beyond tolerances and still release the sear. While I filled the hole and redrilled so that it now works, the gun was obviously subjected to forces beyond its design limits.

If Jax didn't use out of spec ammo, it sounds like the pin was just defective and its failure allowed the firing pin safety lever to move beyond spec and damaging it. I guess he is fortunate that he did not have a failure in time of need, but I have never heard of any XD having this type of failure. I'm sure it is a one off thing.

JaxChris
03-08-2010, 01:09 PM
If Jax didn't use out of spec ammo

1600 rounds of Blazer Brass
300 rounds of Winchester White Box
50 rounds of Speer Gold Dots (Georgia Arms new manufacture, not reman/reload)
50 rounds of Federal HST

Off the top of my head I believe that is my round count broken down by product. No reloads.

I actually think the pin or safety lever rusted out due to humidity/sweat and not being fully cleaned. Rusting generated additional friction which wore the parts and when pulling the slide off to clean the safety lever couldn't move freely from the sear and snapped that little pin... but that is purely speculation. SA did not give a report on what they think happened, just listed the parts that were found to be damaged and replaced.

M@D-M@X
03-08-2010, 04:54 PM
Well at least you got your piece back like new.

Hind sight is 20/20 and with that said, a good full inspection of your firearms after a certain amount of cycled rounds is always a good idea.

JaxChris
03-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Well at least you got your piece back like new.

Hind sight is 20/20 and with that said, a good full inspection of your firearms after a certain amount of cycled rounds is always a good idea.

I completely agree, and I feel that after roughly 2000 rounds it is my own fault for not giving the pistol a full work over by a competent gunsmith or getting the tools and doing it myself. But SA didn't seem to care what caused it and took care of it without a hitch.

Chris
03-08-2010, 07:19 PM
I have about 12000 rounds through my XD 45.

No Issues

Secpro
03-09-2010, 07:27 AM
Every once in a while you get a fuck up and it just so happens Jax was the one who got it this time around. Glock, Sig, etc have all had at a fuck up before!

Satan_3pc
03-09-2010, 10:15 AM
Well, you bought that XD45 used right Jax? No telling what the fuck tard before you did to it. Or was that your .45GAP? Anyways, if it was used the previous owner could have over oiled like I did and just left it. Pieces of brass and shit could have found there way into that little channel and snapped it or something. I still don't get it though. I just had my gun apart a few days ago and I don't see how that little pin could just break. It's locked through quite a bit of metal all the way to the extractor.

lino
03-09-2010, 10:19 AM
my Taurus has had maybe twice as many rounds as Jax's gun and its 23 years old.. still shooting.. just saying :bolt:

Satan_3pc
03-09-2010, 10:28 AM
Well if you're Taurus is so great, do this to it.

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php

lino
03-09-2010, 10:30 AM
Well if you're Taurus is so great, do this to it.

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php

it aint that tough.. :hide:

Secpro
03-09-2010, 10:35 AM
LMAO!

JaxChris
03-09-2010, 12:02 PM
Well, you bought that XD45 used right Jax? No telling what the fuck tard before you did to it. Or was that your .45GAP?

My XD45 Compact was bought brand new and the test fire cartridge was only 2 weeks old when I got it.

The 45GAP was used.