BSA Sweet 17 Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-12x 40mm Adjustable Objective Illuminated Duplex R

[Dave]

Just got this scope for my 10/22 build. I'm really curious to see how it works out. It looks like it could be a nice scope for the money. It had a couple of decent reviews. I hope it lives up to my expectations. If it does, I'll probably be getting something similar for my Remington 700.

Anyone have any experience with BSA scopes? I know they used to make some cool bikes! :cool:

[Cris]

Wait for Phil to chime in, he knows a lot about scopes.

[ss1]

I don't have any personal experience with the scope other than seeing it in the Cabellas or Bass Pro catalogs. But, I'll be brutally honest. With optics, you definitely get what you pay for. The glass, the coatings, the housing, how the reticle is constructed, eye relief, paralax adjustment, etc all play into how effective your shot placement will be. There aren't too many examples of dirt cheap optics that perform like good quality glass.

For a .22, you probably won't be taking shots over 100 yrds, so your field of view isn't as critical when cranked out to 12x, your range in elevation isn't that critical as well, and mirage won't be distorting your target. Recoil is almost a non-issue, so the scope should hold zero. I think this particular scope has target knobs but I don't know its adjustment increments and how the "clicks" feel while making windage or elevation adjustments. In daylight you should be fine with the glass, but side to side with good quality glass, you will certainly see a loss in degree of brightness. Are you ever going to take it hunting, ie small game? If you do, the light gathering abilities of your scope will become very important. Plus, when you hunt, you will most likely take a shot much closer than 100 yrs, so the scope's ability to focus at 15 yds at 3x is a big consideration as well.

Now, depending on the caliber of your Remy 700, I seriously doubt you will be happy with anything that BSA has with medium to long range shots. Go with a Nikon Monarch or other quality glass for that rifle.

[Chris]

Not much I could add to Phils post, great advice.
I think the prime objective of this optic is Sub 50 yards.
I think it will perform as expected in that regard.
I will agree though, once you go high quality with your glass its extremely hard to go back.

[Dave]

I doubt I'll do any hunting with this rifle...it's really just something that I can take to the range often and not have to worry about blowing 100 bucks every time I go. I understand what you're saying though.

I have shot Chris' AR with the Nikon on it. I do like that scope. I guess it doesn't really make sense to get a lower end scope when you can get something really nice for 2-3 times the price. I'll probably end up going that route for the 700 when I'm ready.

[Chris]

I think your doing the right thing for this particular rifle.
The 700 or any long range precision rifle is a different story.
The world of scopes is extremely confusing and once you get into the high end there seem to be more questions than answers.
Ive found that you will eventually find what features and quality level work for you and stick with that level/price point. I know some shooters that throw out groups that are unbelievable with 100 dollar scopes.
Sadly its a matter of rolling the dice with budget optics. you win some you lose some

[zflamberg]

I myself have Sweet 17 6-18 X 40mm on my Henry Golden Boy. It has been very reliable. The Sweet 17 was designed using a similar technology applied in the sniper trajectory compensation scopes. The elevation drum increments are calculated to compensate for the elliptic drop of the Hornady or Remington 17HMR/17 grain bullet. In this configuration. at 100 yards I can easily put rounds through the same hole one after the other. I can go out as far as 300 yards with the scope with no problem. The focus feature on this scope helps quite a bit with eye relief something not found on inexpensive scopes as well as the zoom feature. It is important to zero in the scope at 100 yards then loosen the drum screws and then rotate the drum until the 100 yards marking matches the zero marking, then re-tighten the screws. After that its easy to compensate anywhere between 100 and 300 yards using the elevation drum.

[ss1]

I myself have Sweet 17 6-18 X 40mm on my Henry Golden Boy. It has been very reliable. The Sweet 17 was designed using a similar technology applied in the sniper trajectory compensation scopes. The elevation drum increments are calculated to compensate for the elliptic drop of the Hornady or Remington 17HMR/17 grain bullet. In this configuration. at 100 yards I can easily put rounds through the same hole one after the other. I can go out as far as 300 yards with the scope with no problem. The focus feature on this scope helps quite a bit with eye relief something not found on inexpensive scopes as well as the zoom feature. It is important to zero in the scope at 100 yards then loosen the drum screws and then rotate the drum until the 100 yards marking matches the zero marking, then re-tighten the screws. After that its easy to compensate anywhere between 100 and 300 yards using the elevation drum.

Zack, you bring up a good point. Is this 10/22 a .17HMR or a .22 LR?

[Dave]

Zack, you bring up a good point. Is this 10/22 a .17HMR or a .22 LR?

22 LR...sissy shit. :D

[Bicho]

OK so if I wanna get a 22 which one?
17HMR or a .22 LR?

[Dave]

22LR is cheaper to shoot...17HMR is a superior round, but more expensive.

[Bicho]

Cool I like this onehttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/steelydan-o/Savagemodel93.jpg

http://www.savagearms.com/93r17fvss.htm

[Dave]

That's sweet!

Here's a rough figure for the difference in ammo price....

17 HMR - ~$.23/round, for the cheapest ammo
22 LR - >$.04/round, for decent ammo

[Bicho]

That's sweet!

Here's a rough figure for the difference in ammo price....

17 HMR - ~$.23/round, for the cheapest ammo
22 LR - >$.04/round, for decent ammo
You get what you pay for, Thanks for the Info.
I think its the .17HMR for me:D

[Dave]

You get what you pay for, Thanks for the Info.
I think its the .17HMR for me:D

Of course...the primary function of my 10/22 is to be able to go to the range with a rifle as often as I want and not have to spend $100 every time. Otherwise I'd say fuck it and just take the .223 or the 30-06.:cool:

[Chris]

personally, i think the 22 is the best way to improve shooting, trigger, breathe control etc.
Im sure more than a few people have heard me say
Trigger time is trigger time.
I have a few variants and calibers at my disposal but I choose to play with the 22's to get in practice. Nothing wrong with any 17 HMR or the 17 m2 but they are different tools all together with a much more specialized function.

[Dave]

You didn't need to type all that to call Bicho a dumbass....:D

[Bicho]

Of course...the primary function of my 10/22 is to be able to go to the range with a rifle as often as I want and not have to spend $100 every time. Otherwise I'd say fuck it and just take the .223 or the 30-06.:cool:
I have a 30-06
this one but my stock is Black.http://www.theshootersbox.com/store/images/firearms/savage_rifle_110GXP3.jpg
just wanted a 22 for fun.

[Bicho]

You didn't need to type all that to call Bicho a dumbass....:Dwe need more http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/images/smilies/thefinger.gif
BICH!:D

[Chris]

i agree you can never have enough red x's....lol

[Kell]

i agree you can never have enough red x's....lol


Hahahaha:)